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2019 Review Discussion

Cross posted from the EA Forum.

Epistemic Status: all numbers are made up and/or sketchily sourced. Post errs on the side of simplistic poetry – take seriously but not literally.


If you want to coordinate with one person on a thing about something nuanced, you can spend as much time as you want talking to them – answering questions in realtime, addressing confusions as you notice them. You can trust them to go off and attempt complex tasks without as much oversight, and you can decide to change your collective plans quickly and nimbly.

You probably speak at around 100 words per minute. That's 6,000 words per hour. If you talk for 3 hours a day, every workday for a year, you can communicate 4.3 million words worth...

1David James
Preface: I feel like I'm wearing the clown suit to a black tie event here. I'm new to LW and respect the high standards for discussion. So, I'll treat this an experiment. I'd rather be wrong, downvoted, and (hopefully) enlightened & persuaded than have this lingering suspicion that the emperor has no clothes. I should also say that I personally care a lot about the topic of communication and brevity, because I have a tendency to say too much at one time and/or use the wrong medium in doing so. If anyone needs to learn how to be brief, it is me, and I'll write a few hundred words if necessary to persuade you of it. Ok, that said, here are my top two concerns with the article: (1) This article strikes me as muddled and unclear. (i) I don't understand what "get" five words even means. (ii) I don't understand how coordination relates to the core claims or insight. My confusion leads to my second concern: (2) what can I take from this article? Let's start with the second part. Is the author saying if I'm a CEO of a company of thousands I only "get" five words? A quick aside: to me, "get" is an example of muddled language. What does the author mean w.r.t. (a) time period; (b) ... struggling for the right words here ... meaning? As to (a), do I "get" five words per message? Or five words some (unspecified) time frame? As to (b), is "get" a proxy for how many words the recipient/audience will read? But reading isn't enough for coordination, so I expect the author means something more. Does the author mean "read and understand" or "read and internalize" or "read and act on"? Anyhow, due to the paragraph above, I don't know how to convert "You only get five words" into a prediction. In this sense, to me, the claim it isn't even wrong, because I don't know how to put it into practice. Normally I would stop here, put the article aside, and move on. However, this article is featured here on LW and has many up-votes which suggests that others get a lot of value out of it. S
5Raemon
Thanks for the thoughts (no need to be nervous about arguing against a post – that's kinda the whole point of the site) For an example of what I mean, here's another post on a pretty similar subject, by someone with experience seeing how it played out at different large companies (Dan Luu) One motivating example at the time was seeing how the EA community organizers/leaders had lots of trouble communicating nuanced ideas. For example, "EA is talent constrained" was how a blogpost about "EA needs more extremely talented people in particular domains, more than it needs marginal money, right now". But people heard it as "EA needs people who are talented... I'm talented!" and then felt frustrated when they tried to apply for jobs, but, actually, what the post originally meant was specific talent gaps.

Thanks for your quick answer -- you answered before I was even done revising my question. :) I can personally relate to Dan Luu's examples. / This immediately makes me want to find potential solutions, but I won't jump to any right now. / For now, I'll just mention the ways in which Jacob Collier can explain music harmony at many levels.

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