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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 26 May 2013 08:39:19AM 0 points [-]

Where's the scam in this story?

Comment author: Locaha 26 May 2013 08:32:33AM 0 points [-]

For books, check the internet for free pirated book.

This isn't meant to be moral. We are talking munchkin here.

Comment author: DanArmak 26 May 2013 07:33:33AM 0 points [-]

Is there really a why to the direction of facing? Or is it just that both states are stable, but which one is chosen is due to uninteresting historical contingency?

Comment author: sanddbox 26 May 2013 06:43:58AM 0 points [-]

So, simple is a type of equation?

Jokes aside, that's an excellent answer.

Comment author: sanddbox 26 May 2013 06:43:03AM 0 points [-]

There's a clear difference between interacting with foreigners in your own country, and being a foreigner in another country, which is basically that when you're a foreigner, it's your beliefs/customs/mannerism that are being questioned. If everybody faces the back of the elevator, you're going to start pondering why in the U.S. you face the front of the elevator, whereas those facing the back wouldn't stop and think about why a foreigner might be facing the opposite direction.

Also, obviously, the immersion factor is there. Speaking to foreigners in your own country is not nearly as new/scary an environment as being in a completely foreign country.

Comment author: Kawoomba 26 May 2013 06:20:25AM 0 points [-]

Oh man how did I miss that?

Could be that age self-experiment you're doing ...

Comment author: tondwalkar 26 May 2013 05:36:59AM 1 point [-]

Extraordinary claims....

Comment author: tondwalkar 26 May 2013 05:08:14AM 0 points [-]

Flip-flops are excellent for that reason. I have really sweaty, weird-sized feet, so they're especially nice, and if, like me, you already have a reputation for being eccentric people won't mind when you show up to nicer events in a blazer, jeans and flip-flops.

Comment author: gwern 26 May 2013 04:51:45AM 1 point [-]

Oh man how did I miss that? Well, that still leaves how important the 9 are.

Comment author: fowlertm 26 May 2013 04:18:45AM 0 points [-]

Good to hear! Yeah, spend any significant time abroad and you'll start to replace the symbol with the substance, trust me :)

Comment author: fowlertm 26 May 2013 04:17:45AM 1 point [-]

"Alright kids, can you say 'computation'? Repeat after me: COM-PYOU-TAY-SHON..."

Comment author: fowlertm 26 May 2013 04:16:15AM 0 points [-]

You quickly learn to not rely on words. Communication, especially with my students, involves lots of drawing, lots of acting, lots of examples, hence what I wrote about having to rely on empirical examples of things. That in itself is a pretty valuable experience I think.

Comment author: sceaduwe 26 May 2013 04:13:29AM *  1 point [-]
Comment author: fowlertm 26 May 2013 04:12:49AM 1 point [-]

You could get quite a bit of the way there, yeah. Interestingly, it's possible to have the inverse experience: lots of foreigners living here make almost no effort to interact with locals, learn the language, or experience the culture in any significant way.

I doubt there's anything quite like full-on immersion in a culture you know nothing about, though.

Comment author: CCC 26 May 2013 04:11:41AM 0 points [-]

'n Mens kan defnitief 'n bietjie van tweetaaligheid leer. Woorde wat dieselfde klink in een taal kan baie anders klink in 'n ander taal - byvoorbeeld, 'skoon seun' en 'skoonseun' klink nooit nie dieselfde nie in Engels. Woordorde kan ook baie verander.

(For those who are curious, I've rot13'd the English translation of the above paragraph below)

N crefba pna qrsvavgryl yrnea na ovg sebz ovyvathnyvfz. Jbeqf gung fbhaq gur fnzr va bar ynathntr pna fbhaq irel qvssrerag va nabgure ynathntr - sbe rknzcyr, 'pyrna fba' naq 'fba-va-ynj' qb abg fbhaq gur fnzr va Ratyvfu. Jbeq beqre znl nyfb punatr n ybg.

Comment author: Cyan 26 May 2013 04:06:57AM 0 points [-]

But some other major ideas in philosophy of mind are do matter here.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 May 2013 04:02:48AM 2 points [-]

Just show them examples of small Turing machines until they catch on.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 May 2013 04:01:09AM 0 points [-]

Cross-posting would be UNFORGIVEABLE.

No, I lie, I don't even know why that would be a problem.

Comment author: CCC 26 May 2013 03:51:41AM 0 points [-]

So, you're suggesting there should be either zero, one, or a potentially infinite number of Matrix Lords, and never (say) exactly three?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 26 May 2013 03:33:51AM 1 point [-]

Cool. I was going to write a post in which I suggested a mental exercise involving pretending that words don't have meaning, and expected that the exercise would be very easy to do for people living in a country foreign to them. But this is better than that post would've been because you actually did it!

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