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Comment author: taw 10 June 2009 08:21:31AM 0 points [-]

Aggregation wouldn't really work unless utility function was a pretty decent approximation, and its errors were reasonably random.

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Comment author: orthonormal 10 June 2009 08:37:33PM 0 points [-]

Good point, especially when it comes to markets. You can have a lot of people acting in predictably irrational ways, and a few people who see an inefficiency and make large sums of money off of it, and the net result is a quite rational market.

Comment author: taw 10 June 2009 10:02:19AM 0 points [-]

Average of large number of functions that look nothing like U has little reason to look much like U. The fact that something like U turns out repetitively needs an explanation.

It's true that usually only a small portion of human behaviour is usually modeled at time, but utility maximization is composable, so you can take every single domain where utility maximization works, and compose it into one big utility maximization model - mathematically it should work (with some standard assumptions about types of error we have in small domain models, assumptions which might be false).

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Comment author: taw 10 June 2009 11:04:52AM 0 points [-]

What I was trying to do was more trying to figure out rough approximation of my utility function descriptively, to see if any of my actions are extremely irrational - like wasting too much time/money on something I care about very little, or not spending some time/money on something I care about a lot.

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Comment author: taw 10 June 2009 11:54:22AM 0 points [-]

Approximation is likely to be a list of "I value event X relative to default state at Y utilons", following economic tradition of focusing on the marginal. Skipping events from this list doesn't affect comparisons between events on the list.

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Comment author: taw 10 June 2009 12:11:54PM 1 point [-]

Next I look at utilons to costs ratios, and do more of things which result in events with high ratios, and less of things which result in events with low ratios.

By the way, as the function is marginal, value of money will be approximately linear, extra $100 is worth pretty much 100 times more than extra $1, it only breaks down on very large $s that significantly affect your net worth.