RobinHanson comments on Nonparametric Ethics - Less Wrong

27 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 June 2009 11:31AM

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Comment author: RobinHanson 20 June 2009 03:20:01PM 2 points [-]

If we talk about inferring the moral truth behind noisy moral intuitions, then if people's intuitions or models of those intuitions differ, the errors in their intuitions or models differ. One person can be more mistaken than another. If you reject moral realism you can recast this conversation in terms of commonly shared "moral" components of what we want.

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 20 June 2009 03:41:16PM 0 points [-]

I don't understand. How can you never be wrong about what is right, and still can be wrong about what is a shared component of what is right?

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 20 June 2009 04:07:36PM *  0 points [-]

Okay. In a form, this view can even be equivalent, if you stick to the same data, a kind of nonparametric view that only recognizes observations. You see this discussion as about summarization of people's behavior (e.g. to implement a policy to which most people would agree), while I see it as about inference of people's hidden wishes behind visible behavior or stated wishes, and maybe as summarization of people's hidden wishes (e.g. to implement a policy that most people would appreciate as it unfolds, but which they won't necessarily agree on at the time).

Note that e.g. signaling can seriously distort the picture of wants seen in behavior.

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Comment author: Annoyance 20 June 2009 05:03:47PM 0 points [-]

Basically, this thing is a big mess, philosophically and computationally.

The best summation of the topic I've yet come across.

Comment author: ChrisDavoren 21 June 2009 07:41:21AM 3 points [-]

Yes, you're very intelligent. Please expand.