Yvain comments on Controlling your inner control circuits - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Yvain 28 June 2009 07:37:25PM 12 points [-]

Wait a second. There's a guy who writes textbooks about akrasia named Will Powers? That's great.

Comment author: Alicorn 28 June 2009 08:37:20PM 2 points [-]

It is in fact so great, that I suspect it might be a pen name.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 07 July 2009 07:35:27AM 6 points [-]

It really is his name. I know him personally. (But he is informally known as Bill, not Will.)

Comment author: [deleted] 04 August 2009 04:35:23PM 1 point [-]

Can you tell him that many of the links on this page are broken? http://www.brainstorm-media.com/users/powers_w/

Comment author: pjeby 28 June 2009 09:25:27PM 1 point [-]

Wait a second. There's a guy who writes textbooks about akrasia named Will Powers? That's great.

"Behavior: The Control of Perception" has very little to say about akrasia actually. The chapter on "Conflict" does a wee bit, I suppose, but only from the perspective of what a PCT perspective predicts should happen when control systems are in conflict.

I haven't actually seen a PCT perspective on akrasia, procrastination, or willpower issues yet, apart from my own.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 28 June 2009 09:33:01PM 2 points [-]

I haven't actually seen a PCT perspective on akrasia, procrastination, or willpower issues yet, apart from my own.

If I'm not mistaken, there is a little cottage industry researching it for years. See e.g.
Albert Bandura, Edwin A. Locke. (2003). Negative Self-Efficacy and Goal Effects Revisited. (PDF) (it's a critique, but there are references as well).

Comment author: pjeby 28 June 2009 10:06:48PM 2 points [-]

Fascinating. However, it appears that both that paper and the papers it's critiquing are written by people who've utterly failed to understand it, in particular the insight that aggregate perceptions are measured over time... which means you can be positively motivated to achieve goals in order to maintain your high opinion of yourself -- and still have it be driven by an error signal.

That is, the mere passage of time without further achievement will cause an increasing amount of "error" to be registered, without requiring any special action.

Both this paper and the paper it critiques got this basic understanding wrong, as far as I can tell. (It also doesn't help that the authors of the paper you linked seem to think that materialistic reduction is a bad thing!)