Alicorn comments on Atheism = Untheism + Antitheism - Less Wrong

86 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 July 2009 02:19AM

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Comment author: Alicorn 05 July 2009 05:46:24AM 3 points [-]

someone who replies to a comment already at -5 with a long, thought-out response, should not be surprised, IMO, if they get downvoted themselves.

The fact that an outcome is not, or should not be, surprising does not reliably correlate with the fact that the outcome is consistent with what we should like to see. Particularly given that people sometimes downvote for disagreement in the same way that they upvote for agreement, it doesn't seem at all appropriate to me that people responding to downvoted comments with replies that are themselves decently written and thoughtful should be downvoted too.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 July 2009 05:50:13AM 4 points [-]

Unless it crosses over the line into feeding trolls. There are whole posts originally on OB that were taken over by Caledonian, because people just couldn't let him sink into the void. The point of voting something down to -5 is that it vanishes from the default eye - to put interesting discussions underneath it makes LW harder to filter well, as well as derailing the conversation.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 05 July 2009 06:00:52AM *  1 point [-]

Would it be hard to make something vanish based on an algorithm like this?

(original_post_points + sum_of_responding_post_points/2)/total_number_of_posts_in_thread

Would that be preferable? (Maybe disregard posts that have not been voted on?)

Comment author: MBlume 05 July 2009 05:53:55AM 7 points [-]

The thing is, byrnema hasn't acted like a troll in this thread. She made a single comment and since then has been responding to comments specifically directed towards her

Comment author: byrnema 05 July 2009 06:39:27AM *  10 points [-]

My policy has been to mainly only respond to comments with questions since my views in this thread are unpopular. If someone does ask me a question, I perceive this as some interest in continuing the thread and I'll answer in good faith. But I do observe the karma of the comment asking the question. If its karma is positive, then this is evidence that continuing the thread is not generally unwelcome, and that the negative karma I'm receiving indicates disagreement with me rather than a desire for the thread to vanish. On the other hand, if we're both earning negative karma, this would be evidence that we're producing noise and I would try to end the discussion.