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Comment author: CronoDAS 02 July 2009 09:48:23AM *  3 points [-]

So, I'm looking for some advice.

I seem to have finally reached at that stage in my life where I find myself in need of an income. I'm not interested in a particularly large income; at the moment, I only want just enough to feed a Magic: the Gathering and video game habit, and maybe pay for medical insurance. Something like $8,000 a year, after taxes, would be more than enough, as long as I can continue to live in my parents' house rent-free.

The usual method of getting an income is to get a full-time job. However, I don't find that appealing, not one bit. I want to have lots of free time in which to use the things I buy with the money I would earn. I'd much rather just continue to spend down my savings than work more than two days a week at a normal job.

This suggests that instead, I should try to get a part-time job. Chances are, that would mean working in a local restaurant or store of some kind. Unfortunately, I tried one of these once before, and it didn't work out very well. I was hired to be a cashier at a local supermarket. To my great surprise, I didn't particularly mind the work, but on my third day after being hired, I was fired for insubordination. (I had a paperback novel with me, and I wouldn't stop reading it during periods when there were no customers.) I've also tried working for a temp agency. That didn't work out too well either. After completing my first assignment, I was told that the company I was contracted out to complained about my behavior (it's a long story), and so I would not be considered for any other assignments. In effect, I was fired from there, too.

As far as I'm concerned, the ideal source of income would be something with no set hours, that I could leave and come back to as I please. In other words, if I decide that I'd rather play video games for a month instead of earning money, it won't prevent me from earning money the month after that. Unfortunately, the only things I know of offhand that work like that are writing (which is extremely hard to make a living at, and requires a lot of time and effort anyway) and online poker (which I suck at). I'm lazy and undisciplined, and I'm not particularly interested in changing that, so I'm hoping to find a way to make money that works even if I don't try very hard at it.

In terms of skills and education, I have a B.S. from Rutgers University in computer engineering. I can program, but when I've tried programming as a job (as a summer intern), it turned into a Dilbert cartoon very, very quickly. Basically, I was given vague instructions, left on my own to do whatever, and instead of working, I mostly sat and surfed the Web while feeling guilty about not working. I don't think I want to do programming professionally. I ever have to sit in another cubicle again, there's a good chance I'm quitting on the spot.

So, um... I need some suggestions on what to do. Bring on the other-optimizing?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 02 July 2009 12:36:16PM *  1 point [-]

No detailed suggestions, but one thing that comes out very strongly from what you wrote is that you don't want a job and a job doesn't want you.

This is not necessarily a bad thing.

Steve Pavlina wrote about why getting a job is a really bad idea; as for what to do instead, to make your way in the world, some of his other stuff may be of interest. (His other stuff also includes some things I think are woo, so don't take this as a pointer to a pure fount of wisdom.)

I second the suggestions made by others to look for freelance computing work. It sounds ideal for your situation, if you can learn to take orders from yourself, which it sounds like you won't from other people.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2009 07:00:15PM *  2 points [-]

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Comment author: wedrifid 04 July 2009 11:45:26PM 0 points [-]

I'm only passingly familiar with Pavlina. Would you say the same thing about the advice of Tim Ferris?

Comment author: [deleted] 05 July 2009 11:26:41AM *  2 points [-]

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Comment author: wedrifid 04 July 2009 11:43:47PM *  1 point [-]

Ok, someone tell me what the fuck this woo shit is!

Edit: Ok, pardon my language. That rules out my two first hypotheses. Anyone?

Comment author: Z_M_Davis 05 July 2009 01:22:53AM 2 points [-]
Comment author: wedrifid 05 July 2009 11:47:27AM *  0 points [-]

Nice. Now I have a swear word that means something actually bad as opposed to taboo for doing in public.

Comment author: RobinZ 08 November 2009 03:37:26PM 0 points [-]

I always thought "taboo for doing in public" was what the swear word meant.