MBlume comments on Rationality Quotes - July 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MBlume 04 July 2009 10:30:45PM *  15 points [-]

"I'm writing a book on magic," I explain, and I'm asked, "Real magic?" By real magic people mean miracles, thaumaturgical acts, and supernatural powers. "No," I answer. "Conjuring tricks, not real magic."

Real magic, in other words, refers to the magic that is not real, while the magic that is real, that can actually be done, is not real magic.

-from Net of Magic, by Lee Siegel

Comment author: sark 21 December 2010 04:17:09PM 0 points [-]

This seems to me to be a confusion over senses of the word "real". "Real magic" as opposed to "Not real magic" here is simply used in the analogous sense of "Do you like like me?" vs. "Or do you just like me?". Whether "real magic" can in fact be done did not enter into the mind of the questioner in the above scenario. Hence "real" there is used in the sense of "genuine" instead of "actual".

This is a common pitfall for quotes/aphorisms. Their short length is an incentive for conciseness, but it can also become an end in itself. Hence leading us to tradeoff meaning for superficial features like symmetry, rhyme, etc.