Blueberry comments on Not Technically Lying - Less Wrong

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Comment author: aausch 18 December 2009 03:13:07AM 1 point [-]

From my personal observations, it seems very hard for the human brain to live with lies which are not technically lies, and at the same time remain un-damaged in other ways. I have this concept marked as one of the major leading causes of "pretzel-brain".

The most interesting example I have found so far is of an individual who thinks of himself as always honest - and he maintains this image by never lying at the meta-level. He introduces himself as a liar to all new people he meets, and, if asked directly if a statement he's made is a lie, he will answer truthfully, to the best of his ability. It's not technically a lie if people know you're honest, and can catch you in the act if they try.

Comment author: Blueberry 18 December 2009 07:05:33AM 3 points [-]

I've actually noticed the opposite with at least a few people: they don't like lie-lies, but are fine with NTLs because they're still "telling the truth". But those people may have pretzel brains.

For what it's worth, I see NTLs as a type of lie: the distinction doesn't seem important.