PeterS comments on Jul 12 Bay Area meetup - Hanson, Vassar, Yudkowsky

6Eliezer_Yudkowsky11 July 2009 09:13PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (19)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

PeterS12 July 2009 01:06:08AM0 points [-]

Never been to one of the meetups before, but I'm thinking of showing up to this one. What can I expect?

rhollerith_dot_com12 July 2009 05:56:05PM* 7 points [-]

Never been to one of [the meetups][1] before, but I'm thinking of showing up to this one. What can I expect?

The summer interns I have met are all nice, interesting and extremely bright. unless I am severely mistaken, the summer interns are mostly college age, 18-22, though Roko is probably a few years older than that. Some are under 18, and the dad of one of them came to pick him up during the last meetup. Most of the summer interns live in the big house where the meetup will take place.

There will be four to six full-time employees of the Singularity Institute in attendance. Most of these have science and math as their strongest skills or are full scientific generalists with a mastery of all the sciences, natural and social, and of important social skills like philanthropic networking or running a technology startup. You can tell how wondeful Eliezer is just by studying his vast body of written public communications. What you might not yet know is that Eliezer's standards for whom he works with are extremely high in the intellect department and in the altruism department.

In case you are now intimidated, rest assured that there will also be a few less scintillating intellects in attendance, like my pal Richard Karpinski and I, who although welcoming and well-meaning are not extremely bright, but rather only very bright, that is, only 2 standard deviations above the human average [insert: in IQ :insert] and who now suffer from the inevitable mental decline that comes with our being old farts.

(In case you are wondering, I did clear this paragraph with Richard Karpinski before posting it!)

Probably because the attendees have spent little of their lives trying to conform and to be similar to the people around them, the individual personalities vary more than they do at most gatherings.

In summary, if you get pleasure from discussing the world from an atheistic scientific perspective and from an altruistic or selfless/global perspective and if you are even remotely presentable, then there is a good chance that this meetup is among the best opportunities to experience that particular pleasure you will ever have.

CarlShulman14 July 2009 04:45:11AM2 points [-]

Actually there are only two undergraduate interns, and one local high school senior. Most of the interns have graduate education.

rhollerith_dot_com14 July 2009 09:23:24AM0 points [-]

OK but in addition to the local high school senior, one of last year's summer interns is 17 or just turned 18. (And both were present at the meetup.)

AnnaSalamon06 September 2009 07:01:27PM0 points [-]

Yes, but that left the group with four out of sixteen age 22 or below. The rest were older.

PeterS12 July 2009 09:24:08PM0 points [-]

Well that sounds interesting. And fairly terrifying too, given that I'm somewhat shy.

Only two standard deviations above the human average... sounds like you're talking about IQ?

AndrewH12 July 2009 09:30:50PM1 point [-]

We are probably far more afraid of you than you are of us.

PeterS12 July 2009 09:43:22PM0 points [-]

Meaning?

steven046112 July 2009 10:03:40PM* 1 point [-]

Meaning it was a joke and we're fun people who make jokes and we totally don't want you to feel intimidated!

MBlume12 July 2009 09:44:31PM0 points [-]

lol, just that some of us are shy, socially-awkward folk I guess =)

Eliezer_Yudkowsky12 July 2009 10:09:58PM0 points [-]

I'm somewhat shy

Don't worry, we should have lots of socially awkward people present. (As well as non-socially-awkward people. We take all sorts.)

rhollerith_dot_com12 July 2009 09:48:38PM0 points [-]

Well that sounds interesting. And fairly terrifying too, given that I'm somewhat shy.

Only two standard deviations above the human average... sounds like you're talking about IQ?

I am talking about IQ. Parenthetically, an IQ 2 standard deviations above the mean is by definition an IQ of 130 which is right about the average for professional computer programmers and some engineering occupations. (Scientific occupations tend to average around 140.)

Roko12 July 2009 07:29:26AM0 points [-]

It will blow your mind....

Well certainly the SIAI summer intern experience I have had since arriving at the house has been extremely valuable and fun.