RobinZ comments on Absolute denial for atheists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobinZ 16 July 2009 05:53:55PM 4 points [-]

Day-um, that was sharp!

With regards to child abuse: would a comparison to hazing be appropriate at this juncture? Were the hypothesis correct, it would have a certain surface similarity.

Comment author: PeterS 16 July 2009 06:07:33PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure I understand what kind of comparison you're suggesting. I've heard numerous attempts to rationalize child abuse by analogy to hazing, I've even heard arguments by abusers to the effect that children are "weak" today because kids don't undergo the same "hazing" that their parents put them through. "It's nothing my parents didn't do to me," etc...

Or were you getting at something else?

Comment author: RobinZ 16 July 2009 06:13:57PM 1 point [-]

...hmm, I see a cultural divide, here. I disapprove of hazing, and consider it to be perpetuated because the victims feel like they've earned the right to revenge - even though said revenge is enacted on the wrong parties (the next incoming group, rather than the previous group that abused them). Therefore - ironically, as it happens - I made the analogy to hazing to indicate a possible pattern in the rationalizations.

Comment author: CronoDAS 16 July 2009 11:20:36PM 3 points [-]

consider it to be perpetuated because the victims feel like they've earned the right to revenge - even though said revenge is enacted on the wrong parties (the next incoming group, rather than the previous group that abused them).

In my high school, one of my classmates offered pretty much this exact justification for hazing freshmen.