NancyLebovitz comments on Absolute denial for atheists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 17 July 2009 10:19:12AM 4 points [-]

More of an empirical evidence thing, with some logic supporting it: For the vast majority of people, their fat percentage says nothing about their health or how well they're living their lives. The cultural opposition to fatness is status-driven, and should be viewed as signaling gone out of control.

The demand for leanness has made people's lives (including their health) generally worse rather than better.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 April 2012 04:20:18PM *  3 points [-]

This looks like evidence against that to me. See also this. (All that publicity for anorexic models is still a Bad Thing, but “opposition to fatness” needn't mean endorsement of emaciation; the latter is signalling gone out of control.)

ETA: FWIW, all other things being equal I feel better (e.g. more stamina) when I'm slimmer; YMMV.

Comment author: wedrifid 16 April 2012 04:33:14PM 0 points [-]

ETA: FWIW, all other things being equal I feel better (e.g. more stamina) when I'm slimmer; YMMV.

How have you managed the 'all else being equal' part? Most things that cause you to have more stamina* also cause you to be slimmer. It seems more likely that you will have more stamina because all else is almost certainly not equal.

* In the non-trivially-short-term. ie. I'm not talking about drinking 5 bottles of Gatorade giving you more stamina for that day.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 April 2012 04:45:13PM *  0 points [-]

How have you managed the 'all else being equal' part?

By eating less for a couple of months without any other major change of habits.

Most things that cause you to have more stamina* also cause you to be slimmer.

(provided slimmer is defined in terms of fat mass alone and not total mass: muscle weighs a lot, and...).
Sure, eating a lot by itself also makes me less energetic for a while (probably due to digestion requiring energy), but I'd expect that to be a short-term effect only.

Comment author: Nanani 21 July 2009 03:06:32AM 1 point [-]

Does anyone really deny this? Or is it simply not socially appropriate to say you want to look better?

Comment author: pwno 17 July 2009 04:24:39PM 0 points [-]

I don't think slightly overweight people use the rationale for losing weight to be more healthy. They know they want to do it to just look better.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 17 July 2009 08:03:48PM 1 point [-]

I don't think either of us have statistics on this.

My impression is that looking better gets conflated with being healthier and proving one's virtue.