timtyler comments on The Popularization Bias - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 17 July 2009 09:59:27PM -1 points [-]

I guess it's because there is no proof that someone won't find a way of computing the uncomputable. It seems unlikely to me - but I suppose there is not much harm in philosopers speculating.

Comment author: timtyler 18 July 2009 07:49:36AM 0 points [-]

Re: Toby's "Regardless of the actual computational limits of our universe, I have no doubt that the study of hypercomputation will lead to many important theoretical results across computer science, philosophy, mathematics and physics."

Hmm. What have we got so far out of Omegas and Oracles? I expect what we will get out of Hypercomputation will be mostly confusion - since it sounds as though it is a field with a real object of study.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 19 July 2009 12:03:15PM 0 points [-]

Well, one practical result we've got is that we shouldn't program AIs to assume (either implicitly or explicitly) that the universe must be computable. See this discussion between Eliezer and me about this.

Comment author: timtyler 20 July 2009 08:34:01AM -1 points [-]

Making agents with assumptions about anything which we are not confident of the truth of seems like a dubious strategy.

We are fairly confident of the Church-Turing thesis, though: "Today the thesis has near-universal acceptance" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church–Turing_thesis