JulianMorrison comments on Sayeth the Girl - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JulianMorrison 20 July 2009 12:34:00AM 7 points [-]

I suggest that unFriendly is a hugely more useful general concept than "objectifying". I often find myself frustrated I can't use it in conversation with strangers.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 20 July 2009 12:37:01AM *  10 points [-]

The more I think about it the more I suspect that it's actually the best description yet of the underlying complaint, at least from my perspective.

The term "objectifying" has a lot of additional implications and connotations that distract, cf. the "I objectify supermarket cashiers all the time" type remarks with the "yes but that's not really wrong" replies.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 20 July 2009 12:41:30AM 4 points [-]

I'd say it's entire denotation is useless. Which explains the problems: we're fighting over denotation when all the data is in the connotation (and ought to be extracted to stand alone).

Comment author: RobinZ 20 July 2009 02:49:19PM -1 points [-]

"unFriendly" is the more general concept, but I think "objectifying" is still an important special case.

Comment author: thomblake 20 July 2009 02:52:56PM 4 points [-]

Also, 'unFriendly' is supposed to be a technical term involving AI 'behavior', and as Eliezer points out, it's hard to see how it applies to human behavior.

Comment author: RobinZ 20 July 2009 03:30:59PM 1 point [-]

Right - the human concept is good ol' "unfriendly", no CamelCase.