Gavin comments on Timeless Decision Theory: Problems I Can't Solve - Less Wrong

39 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 July 2009 12:02AM

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Comment author: Gavin 20 July 2009 07:14:49PM *  2 points [-]

If we wanted to be clever we could include Eliezer playing against himself (just report back to him the same value) as a possibility, though if it's a high probability that he faces himself it seems pointless.

I'd be happy to front the (likely loss of) $10.

It might be possible to make it more like a the true prisoner's dilemma if we could come up with two players each of whom want the money donated to a cause that they consider worthy but the other player opposes or considers ineffective.

Though I have plenty of paperclips, sadly I lack the resources to successfully simulate Eliezer's true PD . . .

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 20 July 2009 10:11:21PM 3 points [-]

I'd be happy to front the (likely loss of) $10.

Meaningful results would probably require several iterations of the game, though, with different players (also, the expected loss in my scenario was $5 per game).

I seem to recall Douglas Hofstadter did an experiment with several of his more rational friends, and was distressed by the globally rather suboptimal outcome. I do wonder if we on LW would do better, with or without Eliezer?