Cyan comments on Outside Analysis and Blind Spots - Less Wrong

68 Post author: orthonormal 21 July 2009 01:00AM

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Comment author: Cyan 21 July 2009 02:44:04AM *  9 points [-]

Possibly pedantic nitpick...

I thought "Inside View" and "Outside View" referred to predictions derived from a thorough, assumption-laden* mechanism-based model for something, and predictions derived from embedding the thing in a class of roughly similar things, respectively. You seem to be using the phrases to distinguish between in-group and out-group criticism.

* This isn't pejorative; the assumptions may be well-supported.

Comment author: taw 21 July 2009 03:09:45PM 3 points [-]

I second that changing terminology to "In-group view" and "Out-group view" or something like that would be much appreciated.

"Inside view" vs "Outside view" distinction is one of the most important concept of rationality and we should try to stay clear about it.

Comment author: orthonormal 21 July 2009 03:26:47PM 2 points [-]

I think that this distinction shares some interesting features with the Inside/Outside View distinction (or just Near/Far thinking), but it looks like you're right, I shouldn't confuse notation. I think I like taw's suggestion; give me a moment to edit.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 21 July 2009 11:08:18AM 1 point [-]

This made me stumble as well. Unnecessary overloading of terminology confuses readers and reduced my enjoyment of an otherwise excellent post.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 July 2009 05:16:52AM 1 point [-]

That leapt out at me as well. "Outside View" has a technical meaning and this doesn't seem to be it.