wedrifid comments on Of Exclusionary Speech and Gender Politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 14 April 2010 01:04:46AM 0 points [-]

The main context it's discussed in is situations where no-one has expressed a strong preference. In the case of conflicting preferences, men are advised to be clear and non-deferential regarding their preferences, without necessarily "overriding" anything. The point is to show initiative and non-wishiwashiness, not to push people around.

The initiative and non-wishiwashiness is the most important factor but sometimes the actual override/push people around part is a useful signal in its own right too, if done skillfully.

Comment author: pjeby 14 April 2010 01:13:41AM 1 point [-]

if done skillfully

That's the part that's really hard to communicate in a soundbite, or really to communicate verbally at all.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 April 2010 01:31:16AM 1 point [-]

That's the part that's really hard to communicate in a soundbite, or really to communicate verbally at all.

Especially since 'do exactly the same thing but be two inches taller' can completely change the outcome.

Sometimes it is best to just suggest 'err to the other side to what you are used to'. That makes the difference between what works and what doesn't much easier to spot so the countless subtle differences in context can be learned more readily.