NancyLebovitz comments on Of Exclusionary Speech and Gender Politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 April 2010 02:00:46AM 0 points [-]

I saw an interesting discussion of the movie "300" that sort of relates to this. Someone said that in almost every action movie, there is a woman who wants the man to stay with her and not go do the dangerous thing that's his mission in life. But, if he were the sort of man who would stay - who'd, before going off to war against the Persians, would say, "you're right honey, I should just stay here with you and the kids" - then she wouldn't have been attracted to him in the first place.

And, if he did change his mind and stay, the attraction and romance in the relationship would pretty much die right away.

That's fictional evidence-- that is, not evidence at all. All I'm sure of is it's harder to make a movie about the guy who stayed home, though you could do it if trouble came looking for him.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 April 2010 02:34:26AM 2 points [-]

That's fictional evidence-- that is, not evidence at all.

It's not evidence but it is a good illustration that helps point people to intuitive understanding that they already have.

Comment author: pjeby 14 April 2010 02:17:43AM 1 point [-]

That's fictional evidence-- that is, not evidence at all.

The person who wrote that was pointing to the fiction to give a point of common reference for his observation of the dynamics between men and women, not using the movie as his evidence.

The author's observation (and mine) was that women tend to lose respect (and thus attraction) for a man who they can talk into delaying or abandoning things the man says are important to him. The movie version is just that idea writ large.