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Comment author: Punk 14 April 2010 04:31:46PM *  1 point [-]

they are not likely to be careful in evaluating the effects of their actions on women.

But this is not a bias. The word "bias" means a factual error. Cruel or other-harming behavior is not described by the word "bias". Unless you think that there is motivated cognition rather than explicit cruelty going on.

But it seems that the effect of debate is to challenge bias, whereas the effect of censoring debate is to perpetuate it.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 April 2010 04:09:28AM 0 points [-]

"Motivated cognition" is what I meant.

Bias has more than one meaning, and factual error caused by preconceptions is closer to the the common meaning, I think.

At this point, I'm not sure whether I've called for censorship. I've mostly been saying that PUA puts many women off for good reasons, it's not that women don't know their own interests as well as PUAs do.