Dufaer comments on Of Exclusionary Speech and Gender Politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dufaer 21 July 2009 09:29:27PM 0 points [-]

The categorical goal should not be a "successful community", but rather a truly rationalist community. As such the process of truth-finding should not be compromised by any social "niceties". Now, I can bear some extra effort on the writer's part, but if you feel the pressure to please everyone, it is already a step in the direction of self-censorship, which should not be tolerated. No policy here should step on such a slippery slope, for there is a reason why they are called such.

And an explicit ban on any topic is (of course) categorically not acceptable - be it PUA or whatnot; as such is already a huge slide down on said slope. I am surprised there is not much more of an outcry following such a daring suggestion.

Rationality encompasses all - it has no taboo themes. Neither should you or this community.

Comment author: Alicorn 21 July 2009 09:33:30PM 2 points [-]

There have already been explicit bans on topics. In the early days of Less Wrong, there were bans on discussing the Singularity and artificial intelligence, for fear that without such a ban the conversations about these topics would overwhelm the fledgling site and create an undesireable skewed tone. The ban was lifted after a certain amount of time, when the tone was supposedly established.

If pickup artist discussion is creating a tone that is skewed in ways we don't like, it is not without precedent and not in opposition to rationality to end it.

Comment author: thomblake 21 July 2009 09:31:22PM *  1 point [-]

slippery slope, for there is a reason why they are called such.

slippery slope fallacy, for there is a reason why they are called such

Fixed it for you.

Comment author: Lightwave 21 July 2009 09:35:01PM 0 points [-]

You might want to read Eliezer's posts on the importance of a healthy community. I will link some later if noone's done it before me.

Comment author: CarlShulman 22 July 2009 05:11:44AM 5 points [-]

Here's the link, after a minute's effort. Wasn't it worth that?