Vladimir_Nesov comments on Of Exclusionary Speech and Gender Politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 21 July 2009 09:43:03PM *  8 points [-]

Banning specific topics is probably a good meta-policy for the community: once anything associated with a topic starts to hurt the discussion, for any reason at all, without coming to a resolution, a "cool-down" mode can be switched on by adding the topic to a list of banned topics. This improves the forum for the coming months, and once the ban is lifted (there should be no permanent bans), the topic either loses its harmful qualities in the new context, loses attention of the community, thus causing no more trouble, or gets resolved after a fresh look.

(Inspired by Alicorn's comment.)

ETA: Here's a poll about banning the PUA topic.

Comment author: orthonormal 21 July 2009 11:41:37PM *  2 points [-]

I second this; I think that a moratorium (for a month or two) on PUA theorizing would be better for the LW community than either a permanent ban or the continuation of the currently-entrenched battle on it, either of which would probably drive away a number of valuable rationalists. (Goes without saying that bashing PUA theories would also count as trolling during the moratorium.)

I want to see what the support looks like for this. Below is an informal poll: vote your preferred option(s) up and the karma offset comment down.

EDIT: You know, Vladimir has a better setup: take his poll below and we'll count them up after a bit. I'm deleting the current poll setup, with nothing at more than +2; sorry if you'll have to revote.

I'm keeping my "zero-boxing" comment, though.

Comment author: orthonormal 21 July 2009 11:55:27PM 4 points [-]

EXTRA KARMA OFFSET: If you voted two suggestions up, you can use me to equalize the karma effect.

Um...

I zero-box on Newcomb's Problem!

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 22 July 2009 12:51:00AM *  0 points [-]

Adaptation of comment voting to polls is awkward. There are free poll web services. Below is the same poll, implemented in the first service I stumbled on in Google:

Click here to vote!

Comment author: orthonormal 24 July 2009 12:15:45AM 1 point [-]

There doesn't seem to be a "view results" button, and I don't want to vote again for fear of screwing with the results. How did the poll turn out?

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 24 July 2009 12:53:56AM *  1 point [-]

I hadn't yet voted. Having done so now, the results are:

  • 43%: temporary moratorium (28 votes)
  • 38%: no restrictions (25 votes)
  • 9%: restrict to a number of threads (6 votes)
  • 6%: total ban (4 votes)
  • 3%: a marvelous idea which this poll is too small to contain (2 votes)
Comment author: scav 23 July 2009 09:22:58AM 0 points [-]

OT: Nice poll. BTW - who is the other person who voted from Edinburgh?

Comment author: orthonormal 22 July 2009 01:14:21AM 0 points [-]

By the way, this setup seems to remove punctuation when graphing, which turns "1-2 months" into "12 months". (It keeps the punctuation when asking the question, though, so it shouldn't skew the results.)

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 22 July 2009 01:28:38AM 0 points [-]

Fixed.