johnlawrenceaspden comments on The Nature of Offense - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 19 July 2012 01:49:46AM 3 points [-]

Can you say more about how the presence of women factors into your decision?

He could, but I wouldn't expect the set of people who are self aware and forthright about their signalling motives in such cases to overlap to a large degree with the set of people who start unprovoked street fights to prove their dominance through faux-altruism.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 21 July 2012 07:49:57PM 1 point [-]

It's possible we're talking at cross purposes. I replied "I would" to "Who would take offense of what a drunk on the street says?".

I was imagining someone shouting insults at me. When you say "unprovoked" I wonder if you're imagining someone swearing randomly to himself. I'd take no offence at that.

Comment author: wedrifid 21 July 2012 09:48:31PM *  0 points [-]

You could be right there. Primed by djcb's comment I was more considering "offense at the degree or nature of other people's obscenities" than "offense at deliberate attempt to insult". In the latter case I would replace "unprovoked" with "ill-advised". It potentially also removes the "faux-altruism", depending on whether it was you or your party member's who the insults were directed at.