Vladimir_Nesov comments on The Nature of Offense - Less Wrong

86 Post author: Wei_Dai 23 July 2009 11:15AM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 23 July 2009 03:22:35PM 16 points [-]

Together with A Tale Of Two Tradeoffs and Missing the Trees for the Forest, this post sheds some light on the nature of mind-killing properties of adversarial debate. If adversarial debate is about status, and status-arguing is done by the signaling subsystem of the mind, in the far mode, this explains why the debate is often so myopic. The signaling system of the mind is optimized for deceiving a small group of people to one's advantage, as opposed to making actually good decisions and making accurate estimates where it's possible. It's just bad at seeing the truth, and so the truth gets ignored, while the fight goes on.

Comment author: thomblake 24 July 2009 12:52:04AM 1 point [-]

I think to make your point you also need to establish that people observing the debate also disregard truth.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 July 2009 09:34:01AM 1 point [-]

I don't think it's true to an unusual extent here, apart from standard inability of people to see the actual problem and not the words in which it's described (which is what the debaters will be doing).

Comment author: freyley 24 July 2009 12:46:42AM 0 points [-]

I think you should expand this into a post.