Vladimir_Nesov comments on Bayesian Flame - Less Wrong

37 Post author: cousin_it 26 July 2009 04:49PM

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Comment author: byrnema 26 July 2009 08:17:03PM *  2 points [-]

Whether or not the universe is deterministic is not determined yet. Even if you and I both think that a deterministic universe is more logical, we should accept that certain figures of speech will persist. When I said the toss wasn't determined yet, I meant that the outcome of the toss was not known yet by me. I don't see how your correction adds to the discussion except possibly to make me seem naive, like I've never considered the concept of determinism before.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 26 July 2009 08:26:06PM *  0 points [-]

When I said the toss wasn't determined yet, I meant that the outcome of the toss was not known yet by me.

Hence it's your uncertainty, which can as well be handled in deterministic world. And in deterministic world, I don't know how to parse your sentence

it is more natural to me to think of the "fundamental truth" as being what the probability of heads is, as a property of the coin and the flip