shokwave comments on Thomas C. Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 26 April 2011 06:38:36AM 9 points [-]

anyone who's blandly willing to murder millions of non-combatants of a friendly power in peacetime because they do not accede to empire-building is unfit for inclusion in the human race

You do realize that the point of my proposed strategy was to prevent the destruction of Earth (from a potential nuclear war between the US and USSR), and not "empire building"?

I don't understand why Richard and you consider MAD acceptable, but my proposal beyond the pale. Both of you use the words "friendly power in peacetime", which must be relevant somehow but I don't see how. Why would it be ok (i.e., fit for inclusion in the human race) to commit to murdering millions of non-combatants of an enemy power in wartime in order to prevent nuclear war, but not ok to commit to murdering millions of non-combatants of a friendly power in peacetime in service of the same goal?

A comment on LW is not the same as that bland willingness to slaughter, and you do yourself no favours by incorrectly paraphrasing it as such.

I also took Richard's comment personally (he did say "your bland willingness", emphasis added), which is probably why I didn't respond to it.

Comment author: shokwave 29 April 2011 02:26:29AM 2 points [-]

I also took Richard's comment personally (he did say "your bland willingness", emphasis added), which is probably why I didn't respond to it.

Well, this is evidence against using second-person pronouns to avoid "he/she".

Comment author: JoshuaZ 29 April 2011 02:39:03AM 0 points [-]

He could easily have said "bland willingness to" rather than "your bland willingness" so that doesn't seem to be an example where a pronoun is necessary.

Comment author: shokwave 29 April 2011 02:45:19AM 0 points [-]

No, it's an example where using "you" has caused someone to take something personally. Given that the "he/she" problem is that some people take it personally, I haven't solved the problem, I've just shifted it onto a different group of people.