christopherj comments on Thomas C. Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 29 July 2009 10:20:21PM 3 points [-]

I think that, by the time you've reached the point where you're about to kill millions for the sake of the greater good, you'd do well to consider all the ethical injunctions this violated. (Especially given all the different ways this could go wrong that UnholySmoke could come up off the top of his head.)

Comment author: Wei_Dai 31 July 2009 07:58:31AM 10 points [-]

Kaj, I was discussing a hypothetical nuclear strategy. We can't discuss any such strategy without involving the possibility of killing millions. Do the ethical injunctions imply that such discussions shouldn't occur?

Recall that MAD required that the US commit itself to destroy the Soviet Union if it detected that the USSR launched their nuclear missiles. Does MAD also violate ethical injunctions? Should it also not have been discussed? (How many different ways could things have gone wrong with MAD?)

Comment author: handoflixue 08 August 2011 10:44:19PM 0 points [-]

Recall that MAD required that the US commit itself to destroy the Soviet Union if it detected that the USSR launched their nuclear missiles

And the world as we know it is still around because Stanislav Petrov ignored that order and insisted the US couldn't possibly be stupid enough to actually launch that sort of attack.

I would pray that the US operators were equally sensible, but maybe they just got lucky and never had a technical glitch threaten the existence of humanity.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 02 August 2009 08:14:48PM *  2 points [-]

Do the ethical injunctions imply that such discussions shouldn't occur?

Of course not. I'm not saying the strategy shouldn't be discussed, I'm saying that you seem to be expressing greater certainty of your proposed approach being correct than would be warranted.

(I wouldn't object to people discussing math, but I would object if somebody thought 2 + 2 = 5.)