ajayjetti comments on Thomas C. Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict" - Less Wrong

81 Post author: cousin_it 28 July 2009 04:08PM

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Comment author: ajayjetti 29 July 2009 11:37:25PM *  8 points [-]

So what happens in the broken radio example if both the persons have already read schellings book? Nobody gets the prize? I mean how does such a situation is resolved? If everybody perfects the art of rationality, who wins? and who loses?

Comment author: cousin_it 30 July 2009 09:59:13AM 6 points [-]

If it's common knowledge that both have read Schelling's book, the game is isomorphic to Chicken, which has been extensively studied.

Comment author: ajayjetti 30 July 2009 11:47:45PM 1 point [-]

so rationality doesn't always mean "win-win" ? In a chicken situation, the best thing for "both" the persons is to remain alive, which can be done by one of them (or both) "swerving", right? There is a good chance that one of them is called chicken.

Comment author: cousin_it 31 July 2009 08:29:20AM *  7 points [-]

Neither actual human rationality nor its best available game-theoretic formalizations (today) necessarily lead to win-win.

Comment author: Technologos 02 August 2009 12:55:46AM 6 points [-]

Indeed, the difference between Winning and "win-win" is important. Rationality wouldn't be much of a martial art if we limited the acceptable results to those in which all parties win.

Comment author: Linch 31 January 2014 07:23:31PM 0 points [-]

Hi! First post here. You might be interested in knowing that not only is the broken radio example isomorphic to "Chicken," but there's a real-life solution to the Chicken game that is very close to "destroying your receiver." That is, you can set up a "committment" that you will, in fact, not swerve. Of course, standard game theory tells us that this is not a credible threat (since dying is bad). Thus, you must make your commitment binding, eg., by ripping out the steering wheel.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 31 January 2014 07:25:57PM 0 points [-]

And it helps to do it first. Being the second player to rip out the steering wheel is a whole other matter.

Comment author: JJ10DMAN 31 March 2012 12:07:20AM 1 point [-]

The example was just to make an illustration, and I wouldn't read into it too much. It has a lot of assumptions like, "I would rather sit around doing absolutely nothing than take stroll in the wilderness," and, "I have no possible landing position I can claim in order to make my preferred meeting point seem like a fair compromise, and therefore I must break my radio."