taw comments on Pain - Less Wrong

32 Post author: Alicorn 02 August 2009 07:12PM

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Comment author: Alicorn 03 August 2009 05:35:30AM *  2 points [-]

Pain is forced on people; lutefisk, rock climbing, musical theater and gay sex are not. So this comparison is wrong.

That's a strong statement. I can imagine situations where lutefisk could be forced on someone (a child being obliged to eat it by strict Scandinavian parents?) and I don't think that situation would say anything about lutefisk. (It would be a little more complicated to force rock climbing or musical theater on someone. It's possible to force gay sex on someone, but we tend to think that's bad for reasons having little to do with gay sex in general.)

Comment author: taw 03 August 2009 04:33:11PM 3 points [-]

If you compared pain with force-feeding someone lutefisk at gunpoint, or gay rape (that is forcing it on someone who extremely strongly dislikes it, as is almost always the case with pain), then it would be more apt - except we tend to think of them as wrong too.