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Interesting question....
Could there be suffering in anything not considered an MSA? While I can imagine a hypothetical MSA that could not suffer, it's hard to think of a being that suffers yet could not be considered an MSA.
But do we have a good operational definition of 'suffering'? The study with the fish is a start, but is planning really a good criterion?
The discussion reminds of that story On being a bat (iirc) in Hofstadter/Dennets highly recommended The Mind's I, on the impossibility of understanding at all what it is like to be something so different from us.
Thomas Nagel's "What is it like to be a bat?" [PDF], indeed included in The Mind's I.