joeteicher comments on Suffering - Less Wrong

8 Post author: Tiiba 03 August 2009 04:02PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 03 August 2009 09:09:19PM 2 points [-]

Did the majority of people living at the time feel like it was okay? Is it okay for you to second guess the judgement of thoughtful people who understood the context way better than anyone does now?

If at some point most people believe that killing mammals for food is monstrous, and it is banned, and children learn with horror about 21st century practices of murdering and devouring millions of cows and pigs each year, will that make it wrong to eat a hamburger now? Will eating a hamburger now be okay if that never happens? I certainly don't feel that the moral value of my actions should depend on the beliefs of people living hundreds of years in the future.

Comment author: cousin_it 04 August 2009 04:39:39PM *  4 points [-]

Moral realism fallacy alert?

If at some point most people believe that killing mammals for food is monstrous, and it is banned, and children learn with horror about 21st century practices of murdering and devouring millions of cows and pigs each year, will that make it wrong to eat a hamburger now?

Yes, that will make it wrong in their view. There's no law of nature that says different people from different times should have identical moral judgements.

I certainly don't feel that the moral value of my actions should depend on the beliefs of people living hundreds of years in the future.

No, the moral value of your actions in your view doesn't have to depend on their beliefs. There's no law of nature that says different people from different times should have identical moral judgements.

Comment author: thomblake 04 August 2009 04:45:37PM 0 points [-]

Ha! Nice to see we have this one covered from both sides.

Comment author: Alicorn 03 August 2009 09:12:53PM 3 points [-]

Are you defending some kind of temporal moral relativism here?

Comment author: thomblake 04 August 2009 04:23:07PM 1 point [-]

I certainly don't feel that the moral value of my actions should depend on the beliefs of people living hundreds of years in the future.

Don't worry, you have it backwards. The moral value of your actions is not determined by the beliefs of any people, but rather the people's beliefs are an attempt to track the facts about the moral value of your actions (assuming there is such a thing at all).