Tiiba comments on Unspeakable Morality - Less Wrong

27 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 August 2009 05:57AM

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Comment author: kess3r 05 August 2009 03:15:25PM 0 points [-]

It doesn't bother you if cows go extinct but it bothers you if humans kill cows for food? I don't understand. Going extinct is worse than individuals periodically dying. Going extinct means the ALL die.

Comment author: Tiiba 05 August 2009 04:24:36PM 1 point [-]

Thou know’st ’tis common; all that live must die, passing through nature to eternity. This way, though, they don't leave descendents to toil in cages.

As I said before, the worst part of a factory farm cow's existence isn't death, but life.

Comment author: kess3r 05 August 2009 09:44:39PM 0 points [-]

[quote]the worst part of a factory farm cow's existence isn't death, but life[/quote] I disagree on multiple levels.

-Dying is worse than living no matter how bad of a place you live in -cows don't think like humans. the biggest factor in their happiness is food. cows might be quite happy in farms, or at the very least I think their life is not a permanent state of torture.

Comment author: Tiiba 06 August 2009 02:04:28AM 0 points [-]

"Dying is worse than living no matter how bad of a place you live in"

Would you rather die and disappear, or die and burn in hell? Or burn in hell while alive? Never say never.

"cows don't think like humans"

Yes. They don't anticipate death. They don't stay up all night fearing it. It comes as one sharp blow, and then oblivion.