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Comment author: thomblake 04 August 2009 02:52:45PM 0 points [-]

Average utilitarianism isn't - in modern civilization people benefit from existence of other people, so unexisting the unhappy ones would bring down utility of the happy ones.

But there are slaves now. Given your objection to total utilitarianism, shouldn't you then advocate killing them all, as an average utilitarian? Would this really decrease the utility of most people, if most people never hear about it?

Comment author: taw 04 August 2009 06:00:11PM 2 points [-]

Killing and unexisting are different. If promoting birth control would somehow magically ensure the people with worst lives wouldn't be born, then average utilitarianism says we should be doing it.

Or as a simple proxy, promote birth control in poorest countries that cannot deal with the number of people they have now, but promote responsibly larger families (not "as many kids as possible") in countries that take more people and make them productive members of the modern civilization.