Nominull comments on Recommended reading: George Orwell on knowledge from authority - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nominull 05 August 2009 10:07:44PM 0 points [-]

Evolution is no longer the only optimization process in this world - human societies don't need to undergo evolution, they are intelligently designed. If you think human societies don't develop a sense of self, just wait for the next July 4, or whatever your local day of nationalistic celebration is.

Comment author: Psychohistorian 05 August 2009 10:51:40PM 2 points [-]

To say that a society has a sense of itself seems absurd; societies are not sensing things. How would you distinguish between a society that has a sense of itself versus one that doesn't? By the behaviour and identity of its members? That makes as much sense as determining if I have a sense of self by surveying my neurons to see if they identify as being a part of me. A group of sensing beings ascribing to an ideology does not a new entity with a sense of self or a capacity for knowledge make.