cousin_it comments on Why Real Men Wear Pink - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 06 August 2009 08:35:14AM *  6 points [-]

Are you saying that rich white kids adopted ghetto fashion before poor white kids did? Doesn't ring very true to me.

Comment author: Psychohistorian 06 August 2009 06:32:32PM *  10 points [-]

There's a difference between poor, middle-class, and rich. The idea is that the middle class want to mimic the rich to look higher status. The rich don't want the middle class to get away with it. The rich can mimic the poor and not be taken for being poor but the middle class can't, so the rich steal the poor's fashion.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 August 2011 11:30:26AM 3 points [-]

This works with signalling about values as well.

Comment author: TraderJoe 25 April 2012 01:07:26PM *  0 points [-]

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Comment author: gerg 06 August 2009 06:33:28PM 7 points [-]

Poor kids had ghetto clothes first; rich kids had the clothes second, but ghetto fashion first.

Comment author: MichaelVassar 06 August 2009 08:46:30PM 2 points [-]

Rich white kids also have more contact with ghetto kids than poor white kids do, with lower upper middle class white kids in the expensive burbs having the least contact with ghetto kids.

Comment author: Nanani 10 August 2009 01:31:52AM 2 points [-]

It's not a question of contact, it's a question of seeing that fashion in the media, i.e. via rap stars and so on.

Comment author: MrHen 07 August 2009 05:35:33PM 0 points [-]

I didn't understand this. Why would rich white kids have any more contact with ghetto kids?

Comment author: HumanFlesh 07 August 2009 05:39:30PM 3 points [-]

They both live in cities.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 06 August 2009 07:00:16PM 1 point [-]

It sounds to me like you're asking a historical question, while the first two answers give theoretical answers. But the theory is relevant: the rich don't care about the poor, so it doesn't matter if poor white kids adopt the fashion. The claim is that the rich adopted it before the middle class.

I think this whole discussion need more concreteness.