PhilGoetz comments on Utilons vs. Hedons - Less Wrong

28 Post author: Psychohistorian 10 August 2009 07:20PM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 11 August 2009 04:34:25AM 2 points [-]

Utilons and hedons are models that are supposed to help explain human behavior, but if they don't fit it, it's the models that are wrong.

We're modeling rational behavior, not human behavior.

Comment author: DanArmak 11 August 2009 09:16:57AM 2 points [-]

It seems to me that we're talking about both things in this thread. But I'm pretty sure this post is about analyzing human behavior... Why else does it give examples of human behavior as anecdotal proof of certain models?

I understand that utilons arise from discussions of rational goal-seeking behavior. I still think that they don't necessarily apply to human (arational) behavior.

Comment author: MichaelBishop 15 August 2009 10:57:54PM 0 points [-]

I think we're doing both, and for good reason. Modeling rational behavior and actual behavior are both useful. You are right to point out that confusion about what we are modeling is rampant here though.