PhilGoetz comments on Utilons vs. Hedons - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 11 August 2009 05:16:09PM *  1 point [-]

No; it's fair to say that their utilons are not a linear function of human lives saved.

If you think there are too many people in the world, you might be willing to pay to prevent the saving of lives.

Funny thing is, the only people I know who don't agree that there are too many people in the world, are objectivists, libertarians, and extropians (there's a high correlation between these categories), who are among the least-likely to give money to save people in Africa.

Comment author: SforSingularity 11 August 2009 08:31:11PM 2 points [-]

If you think there are too many people in the world

Africa's population density is 26 people per km^2 source, whereas the EU's population density is 114 people per km^2 Source. Thus it is probably the case that Africa could easily sustain its current population if it were more economically developed.

Comment author: Nanani 12 August 2009 01:20:26AM 2 points [-]

That's a huge "if".

Sending money there is not a way to get the local economy to develop. It's been done for decades and the African economy is barely developped.

Comment author: MichaelBishop 15 August 2009 10:10:58PM 0 points [-]

IMO, I think the main reasons aid has been ineffective is the particular ways it has been given. It often a) empowers dictators or b) reduces profit opportunities for for African farmers and food distributors which reduces their incentive to invest in improving their farming or other businesses.

In my opinion, it would be easy to make sending money somewhat helpful. But even if I'm right, somewhat helpful is far from maximally helpful.

Comment author: Cyan 15 August 2009 10:21:35PM 1 point [-]

Something like the Grameen Bank would probably be the best bet. If there's room for economic growth but no capital to power it, then making microcredit available seems like the obvious choice.