conchis comments on Utilons vs. Hedons - Less Wrong

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Comment author: conchis 12 August 2009 01:48:11AM *  1 point [-]

Hedons won't be a subset of utilons if we happen not to value all hedons. One might not value hedons that arise out of false beliefs, for example. (From memory, I think Lawrence Sumner is a proponent of a view something like this.)

NB: Even if hedons were simply a subset of utilons, I don't quite see how that would mean that this post "doesn't really make sense".

Comment author: Nanani 13 August 2009 12:34:43AM 0 points [-]

Ah, I see! Thank you, that helps.

RE:NB Reading hedons as a subset of utilons, phrases like "maximize our hedons at the expense of our utilons" didn't make sense to me.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 13 August 2009 01:33:06AM 4 points [-]

Reading hedons as a subset of utilons, phrases like "maximize our hedons at the expense of our utilons" didn't make sense to me.

The x that maximizes f(x) might not maximize f(x)+g(x).