Adventurous comments on Utilons vs. Hedons - Less Wrong

28 Post author: Psychohistorian 10 August 2009 07:20PM

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Comment author: Adventurous 12 August 2009 06:58:20PM 0 points [-]

What's the difference between 1 and 2? If we're being selfish then surely we just want to experience the most pleasurable emotional states. I would read "values" as an individual strategy for achieving this. Then, being unselfish is valuing the emotional states of everyone equally... ...so long as they are capable of experiencing equally pleasurable emotions, which may be untestable.

Note: just re-read OP, and I'm thinking about integrating over instantaneous hedons/utilons in time and then maximising the integral, which it didn't seem like the OP did.

Comment author: conchis 12 August 2009 08:10:04PM *  1 point [-]

We can value more than just our emotional states. The experience machine is the classic thought experiment designed to demonstrate this. Another example that was discussed a lot here recently was the possibility that we could value not being deceived.