Tiiba comments on Singularity Summit 2009 (quick post) - Less Wrong

16 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 August 2009 11:29PM

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Comment author: Tiiba 17 August 2009 04:54:47AM *  3 points [-]

THE David Chalmers of P-zombies?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 August 2009 05:11:33AM 3 points [-]

Yes... THE David Chalmers.

Comment author: Tiiba 17 August 2009 05:17:21AM 6 points [-]

Will there be free garlic?

Comment author: steven0461 17 August 2009 10:42:52PM 9 points [-]

Actually, to kill a p-vampire you need to immerse it in running XYZ.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 August 2009 06:45:24AM 8 points [-]

Oh, come on. David Chalmers is probably one of the greatest philosophers of our time, even if he is insane.

Comment author: ata 18 August 2009 12:09:26AM 3 points [-]

Out of curiosity, on what basis do you consider him a great philosopher, especially if you describe him as insane (and tend to disagree with his conclusions, and then necessarily, his reasoning)?

I ask because I'm trying to figure out the same thing about myself, i.e. intuitively I do think of him as a great philosopher, even though I disagree with so much of what he's said. Is it just a matter of how well-known or influential he is, or maybe even of how controversial he is?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 August 2009 12:19:01AM 4 points [-]

If you can execute 9 out of 10 steps in reasoning correctly, then you may still be insane on the 10th step, but you are a much more interesting person to read than people who go wrong on step 2.

Comment author: MBlume 30 September 2009 11:22:18PM 0 points [-]

This exchange seems to me to deserve some form of promotion -- does LW have anything similar to the bestof subreddit?

Comment author: Tiiba 17 August 2009 11:20:39PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 18 August 2009 12:15:47AM *  6 points [-]
Comment author: kpreid 18 August 2009 12:22:11AM 3 points [-]
Comment author: ata 18 August 2009 12:05:33AM *  1 point [-]

Nah, garlic is for protecting against vampires. It'll be no use if this turns out to be the zombie-universe.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 August 2009 12:19:30AM 4 points [-]

I'll sell you some epiphenomenal garlic for $10.

Comment author: dfranke 18 August 2009 12:23:23AM 1 point [-]

Sold, but I'm only carrying epiphenomenal cash on me. What exchange rate will you accept?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 August 2009 12:43:48AM 4 points [-]

Hold on, let me check the financial bridging laws to find out how much epiphenomenal cash is required to add up to ten real dollars.

(Actually, it occurs to me that most modern money is epiphenomenal anyway - you can identify the belief in money, but not the money itself.)

Comment author: komponisto 19 August 2009 07:30:23AM 2 points [-]

For those who don't already know, the analogy to money is in fact used by Dennett (starting around 45 min).

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 August 2009 03:33:33PM 1 point [-]

I didn't. Nice.

Comment author: Fredrik 11 September 2009 10:46:38PM 0 points [-]

So you haven't read his Sweet Dreams: Philosophical Obstacles to a Science of Consciousness?

Comment author: SilasBarta 18 August 2009 01:03:44AM 3 points [-]

Money is information, a point I can't but bring up often.