Pavitra comments on Experiential Pica - Less Wrong

80 Post author: Alicorn 16 August 2009 09:23PM

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Comment author: BrandonReinhart 18 August 2009 07:16:31AM 12 points [-]

We've gone out on a limb with the akrasia discussion. Posts seem like they are using loose references to published material to justify grand pet theories. The term akrasia has become a tent under which all manner of effects and phenomena are being housed. A counter-reductionist trend has set in. The definition of akrasia grows, the manners of dealing with it expand, possible theories of methods of its identification and mitigation can be found in every other top level post. It has the feel of rat hole.

There is too much explanation and not enough prediction. What am I to anticipate?

Solving the problem of the erosion of will and of short term preferences is going to take more than pouring cold water into our own ears. It is likely not generally solvable through introspection.

This discussion of akrasia afflicts this community like a kind of akrasia -- a fertile field for arm chair theories to distract us from harder problems.

Meditation? Really? "Reset my experiential pica?" What?

I propose a one month ban on the akrasia topic. If there is something to be gained through introspection on the subject let those with an interest introspect. For now, though, the only thing these posts lead me to anticipate is a post titled "Akrasia: Because of Magic!"

Comment author: Pavitra 17 May 2011 09:57:14PM 2 points [-]

While I agree with the substance of your point, I take exception to this:

...is going to take more than pouring cold water into our own ears.

It's too common for people to assume that big, difficult problems must have big, difficult solutions. You can't possibly know that no simple solution exists unless you have a sufficiently detailed model of the problem to extract a non-simple solution. It's reasonable to dismiss any particular proposed simple solution if the proposal isn't backed by real evidence, but that shouldn't discourage us from looking for evidence that points to solutions of unknown difficulty.