Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Friendlier AI through politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 August 2009 06:14:02PM 4 points [-]

What kind of competitive or political system would make fragmented squabbling AIs safer than an attempt to get the monolithic approach right?

This is a tremendously important question!

...and the answer is, "None." It's like asking how you should move your legs to walk faster than a jet plane.

Comment author: thomblake 17 August 2009 06:38:20PM 2 points [-]

I think the question we should all be asking is, "Is the plane on a treadmill?"

Comment author: PhilGoetz 17 August 2009 08:09:14PM *  1 point [-]

Downvoted for dismissing a question that is tremendously important to Eliezer's own work without giving any evidence; and for claiming certainty.

It would be reasonable to say that you think it might not be possible. It isn't reasonable to claim to know that it's impossible.

I have just stated that it isn't reasonable to dismiss without argument as impossible what may be our only chance for survival. I therefore find the immediate surge of downvotes surprising, and would appreciate explanations.

Comment author: Alicorn 17 August 2009 06:18:18PM *  1 point [-]

It's like asking how you should move your legs to walk faster than a jet plane.

I can already walk faster than a jet plane. Jet planes do not walk.

Comment author: steven0461 17 August 2009 06:29:25PM 4 points [-]

I can already walk faster than a jet plane. Jet planes do not walk.

How can you walk faster than something that doesn't walk walks?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 August 2009 06:30:19PM 3 points [-]

I love this site.

Comment author: thomblake 17 August 2009 06:35:45PM 0 points [-]

If it can't walk at all, I can certainly walk faster than it.

Would you like some more tea?

Comment author: Cyan 17 August 2009 06:29:10PM *  1 point [-]

Principle-of-charity interpretation:

"It's like asking how you should move your legs to travel faster than a jet plane."

Comment author: SilasBarta 17 August 2009 06:44:05PM 0 points [-]

It's like asking how I should move my legs to travel faster than a a jet plane moves its legs? j/k But I took on what was really meant by the question.

Comment author: SilasBarta 17 August 2009 06:33:06PM *  0 points [-]

It's like asking how you should move your legs to walk faster than a jet plane.

Easy. Go to the first-class galley. Drop-kick their ceramic plates and bowls so that they shatter. Then tell the inspectors. They'll ground the plane. I can walk faster than 0 mph, can you?

(ETA: Better suggestions not given for fear of being arrested, but you get the picture.)

You forgot that aircraft structural analysts post here.

Oh, and wrong meta-level! Or something...

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