CarlShulman comments on Ingredients of Timeless Decision Theory - Less Wrong

43 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 August 2009 01:10AM

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Comment author: CarlShulman 19 August 2009 05:47:22AM 3 points [-]

Rolf Nelson wanted to know what everyday problems evidential decision theory produces. Newcomb's Problem can be mapped onto the Prisoner's Dilemma, but are there similarly common Smoking Lesion like problems?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 August 2009 03:19:27PM *  2 points [-]

Well, if you're using TDT, then conditioning on the initial state of your physical computation screens off most such problems. But if you don't break down your causal graph that finely, then there are all sorts of situations in which crazy people might be tempted to use EDT. I think Drescher in his book gives the case of someone who observes that people usually decide to cross the street only when it is safe to do so, who concludes that by deciding to cross the street they can make it safe.

Comment author: MichaelVassar 19 August 2009 11:17:44AM 0 points [-]

Majoritarianism may frequently be the result of the application of evidential decision theory, ignoring all of the non-naturalistic vagueness in the formulations of CDT and EDT, might it not?

Comment author: ChrisHibbert 19 August 2009 04:52:27PM 0 points [-]

Some kinds of majoritarianism, certainly. The confusion is based on mistaking correlation of votes with commonality of interests. "If we can all agree to vote for proposition X, then it must be in our favor, right?"