thomblake comments on Working Mantras - Less Wrong

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Comment author: thomblake 26 August 2009 04:11:35PM 0 points [-]

First, I often encounter problems in my research that I understand completely. No magic or dark corners remain. Nonetheless, finding a solution remains challenging. When I do find the solution, I don't feel as if the problem has been further illuminated.

I'd really like to see an example. For me, understanding the solution is part of the problem. I read "understand completely" as "can characterize the solution to the problem as a mapping from inputs to outputs", and such a characterization should itself be a solution.

Comment author: Jordan 27 August 2009 02:38:04AM 2 points [-]

I work in applied math. The bulk of my work is aimed at doing something efficiently. Given a problem (a physical model, plus some discretization), I'll have to find suitable algorithms to solve the resulting equations. I usually understand enough about the physics (and artificial physics introduced via the discrete setting) to have a complete understanding of the limits of the efficiency of any implementation. Nonetheless, actually creating the implementation which maximizes efficiency is not straightforward (otherwise I'd have no job!).

I guess you could classify this as two different problems: the base problem of understanding, in an abstract sense, the bounds on efficiency, and the actual problem of constructing algorithms which will touch those bounds. In my mind though, they feel intimately related in a way that I can't unravel.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 26 August 2009 04:13:17PM *  0 points [-]

You are disputing definitions of the word "understand".

ETA: Wrong.

Comment author: thomblake 26 August 2009 05:10:58PM 0 points [-]

Explicitly so, and asking for an example to be sure.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 26 August 2009 06:01:04PM 0 points [-]

Actually, no, you are not disputing definitions, you are asking for a clarification. My bad.