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Scott Aaronson announced Worldview Manager, "a program that attempts to help users uncover hidden inconsistencies in their personal beliefs".
You can experiment with it here. The initial topics are Complexity Theory, Strong AI, Axiom of Choice, Quantum Computing, Libertarianism, Quantum Mechanics.
I just tried the one for AI and I think its not quite accurate. One of the biggest issues is that I think some of the terms need to be precisely defined and they are not. The other issue I found was that the analysis of my beliefs was not completely accurate because it did not take into account all the answers properly.
Its an interesting idea but needs work.
Mostly agree is a higher degree of agreement than Agree ?
To Somewhat agree that everyone should have the vote and Disagree that children should have the vote is inconsistent ?
Obviously this is the work of the Skrull "Scott Aaronson", whose thinking is not so clear.
Also, almost every question is so broken as to make answering it completely futile. So much so that it's hard to believe it was an accident.
I find it hard to believe that you could really think the most likely explanation of the flaws you perceive are that Aaronson and the students that implemented this purposely introduced flaws and are trying to sabotage the work. So why do you utter such nonsense?
And did it not occur to you that disagreeing that children should have the vote could be resolved by being neutral on everybody having the vote, which is what I did after realizing that there are plausible interpretations under which I would disagree and plausible interpretations under which I would agree.
Whether you consider this as sabotage or not depends on what you think the goal of the site's authors was. It certainly wasn't to help find inconsistencies in people's thinking, given the obvious effort that went into constructing questions that had multiple conflicting interpretations.
Quite.
I got this conflict between my acceptance of the draft in the unlikely event it would be useful, and my belief that all acts I think the Government should be allowed to do are currently allowed. It doesn't seem to know of the existence of this supreme court ruling
Interesting link. I played with it for a while. It kept misunderstanding the nuances of my responses, telling me I was wrong when I wasn't then refusing to listen to my replies. So I stopped playing with it. Two in one day. What are chances?
Good idea, bad implementation. Right now it thinks I have this "tension", but I'm pretty sure it's not a tension.
Versus:
It's the [...] that hurts. "It is possible for one's mind to exist outside of one's material body." does not imply "the mind is physically independent of the material body". It's physically dependent and abstractly independent.
I did have some difficulty resolving all tensions, but I was able to do so. I found that there were often alternate interpretations of a statement that would resolve a tension but were still plausible interpretations. For example, one that I remember was interpreting some of the questions about "physical body" more generally as "physical substrate". Sometimes the tension page didn't offer the question that needed reinterpretation, in which case I deferred the tension until I saw a tension that contained the statement to be reinterpreted.
It definitely does need a lot of work, but I can imagine a tool like this having profound effects on people when all the bugs are worked out and it is applied to mind killers and beliefs/habits where cognitive biases figure prominently.
One major thing that needs to be improved if they intend normal people to use it for normal issues like politics, abortion, etc., is to make the tension page much friendlier. Most LWers have probably studied logic, and can pretty easily interpret the tension explanation, but most people have no clue about logic and won't understand the implicit implications that aren't explained (like that contrapositive of "A -> B" is valid).