Cyan comments on LW/OB Quotes - Fall 2009 - Less Wrong

2 Post author: thomblake 01 September 2009 03:11PM

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Comment author: Cyan 15 September 2009 02:18:54PM 0 points [-]

Could you expand on that? (Maybe the open thread would be the best place.)

Comment author: Johnicholas 15 September 2009 02:48:53PM 7 points [-]

wedrifid is alluding to Popper's notion of falsifiability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability

Note that wedrifid's phrase "that a model could [hypothetically] be surprised by the facts" corresponds to "falsifiability", but EY's phrase "a model is surprised by the facts" actually corresponds better to "falsified".

Popper would say that falsifiability is a good thing and falsified is a bad thing (for models), so both wedrifid and EY are good Popperians.

Comment author: Cyan 15 September 2009 04:22:11PM 0 points [-]

Thanks.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 September 2009 04:04:08PM 0 points [-]

(Roughly) what John said.

It really depends what sort of credits I've been charged with granting.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 September 2009 12:41:22AM 1 point [-]

Agree. Being falsified means you're at least not "not even wrong" or "lacking in truth-condition", which is credit of a sort, but not really the sort we should be aspiring toward.

Comment author: Cyan 15 September 2009 04:22:19PM 0 points [-]

Gotcha.