brian_jaress comments on Outlawing Anthropics: An Updateless Dilemma - Less Wrong

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Comment author: brian_jaress 11 September 2009 08:30:55AM 0 points [-]

What kind of funny business?

Comment author: wedrifid 11 September 2009 09:26:52AM 0 points [-]

Let's just say that you don't draw blue.

Comment author: brian_jaress 11 September 2009 04:05:09PM 1 point [-]

OK, but I think Psy-Kosh was talking about something to do with the payoffs. I'm just not sure if he means the voting or the dollar amounts or what.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 13 September 2009 06:34:14PM 0 points [-]

Sorry for delay. And yeah, I meant stuff like "only greens get to decide, and the decision needs to be unanimous" and so on

Comment author: brian_jaress 13 September 2009 07:23:38PM 0 points [-]

I agree that changes the answer. I was assuming a scheme like that in my two marble example. In a more typical situation, I would also say 2/3.

To me, it's not a drastic (or magical) change, just getting a different answer to a different question.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 13 September 2009 07:28:50PM 1 point [-]

Um... okay... I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about here, if anything:

my position is "given that I found myself with a green marble, it is right and proper for me to assign a 2/3 probability to both being green. However, the correct choice to make, given the pecuiluarities of this specific problem, may require one to make a decision that seems, on the surface, as if one didn't update like that at all."

Comment author: brian_jaress 13 September 2009 07:38:57PM 0 points [-]

Well, we might be saying the same thing but coming from different points of view about what it means. I'm not actually a bayesian, so when I talk about assigning probabilities and updating them, I just mean doing equations.

What I'm saying here is that you should set up the equations in a way that reflects the group's point of view because you're telling the group what to do. That involves plugging some probabilities of one into Bayes' Law and getting a final answer equal to one of the starting numbers.