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You don't sound like someone well-versed in what rhetoric is about. It has been closely linked with reason from the beginning - indeed, it is from rhetoric that the discipline of logic first sprang, since reason is so vital to rhetoric.
On the other hand, we have this.
Rhetoric is indeed a knife, not necessarily on the side of truth in the wrong hands.
The personal comment is neither necessary nor accurate.
Do not assume that I reject rhetoric and debate in general merely because I have deployed soldiers against them in a battle for one particular territory. It is clear that I am comfortable engaging in this debate. I am also employing far more from the body of rhetorical techniques than the strict subset of cold logic.
It may be that I disagree with you on just which category of debating situations and contexts are useful vs a recipe for bad epistemic hygene. But my assertion that arguments where the implicit reward structure is too far divorced from accuracy are a recipe for bad habits of thought is hardly controversial.