Jonathan_Graehl comments on Solutions to Political Problems As Counterfactuals - Less Wrong

37 Post author: Yvain 25 September 2009 05:21PM

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Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 25 September 2009 06:33:40PM 1 point [-]

"You can only (directly) intervene in your own actions; when advocating change to others, give a plan following from their and your action." Agreed.

In a democracy, the most likely outcome of widespread proletariat outrage at anti-labor laws is simply pro-labor reform of those laws. So, the Machiavellian communists must have had some plan to further escalate working class anger before it could take its natural course. "We must destroy X to save it" also reminds me of the motivation of every other bad-movie villain (nothing annoys me more than an illogical villain, except a bad screenwriter).

Comment author: wedrifid 26 September 2009 05:50:39AM 0 points [-]

"You can only (directly) intervene in your own actions; when advocating change to others, give a plan following from their and your action." Agreed.

Even that is perhaps overstating how much influence our abstract thought has over our actions. Admittedly, this is probably (for better or worse) greater in this audience than in most.