Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on The Finale of the Ultimate Meta Mega Crossover - Less Wrong

31 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 September 2009 05:21PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 September 2009 08:28:31PM 4 points [-]

Anyone who got all the references in this story, without Google or reading the comments, wins one hundred geek points.

(Because of the implied depth of coverage required to completely overlap a sample of someone else's reading/viewing.)

I figured part of the enjoyment would be getting together in the comments to work it out.

Comment author: eirenicon 21 September 2009 05:06:29PM 2 points [-]

This is what I've got. I suspect some of the characters I couldn't place are from anime/manga, which I've never been interested in. Otherwise, in rot13:

Gur guerr vqragvpny-ybbxvat oblf: Gbz Fjvsg?

Gur zvqqyr-ntrq jbzna jvgu n "dhvgr crphyvne qrzrnabe": Nyvpr.

Gnyy zna jvgu n funirq urnq: Ybhvf Jh.

Obl jvgu gur fpne ba uvf sberurnq: Uneel Cbggre.

Zna jvgu gur fubpx bs lryybj unve: Wbua Pbafgnagvar.

Obl va benatr jvagre pbng: Xraal.

Gur gnyy zna jvgu chcvyf "yvxr fgnef va gur avtug": Qernz (gur Raqyrff).

Gur zna jub bayl fnvq "Trg ba jvgu vg!": Wbua Pyrrfr, V fhccbfr?

Gur Anzryrff Bar vf sebz Cynarfpncr Gbezrag.

Gur Qbpgbe jvgu gur fpnes vf gur Sbhegu.

Gur jbzna jvgu gur fvyire ubbc: Kran.

Gur thl jub yvtugf gur gerr fghzc ba sver: Envfgyva Znwrer, V nffhzr?

Gur zhfphyne zna jvgu gur yragvphyne pelfgny: N Yrafzna (Ivetvy Fnzzf?)

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 22 September 2009 03:06:03AM 0 points [-]

For the first one... you mean the ones with the numbers on them? I don't quite understand why you think they are who you seem to think they are.

Comment author: eirenicon 22 September 2009 04:54:36AM 1 point [-]

I thought the numbers were some clever Tom Swift reference, although for the life of me I couldn't figure it out. Swift popped into my mind because there have been at least three Tom Swifts about which it was unknown if they were the same person. I have no idea what those numbered characters might be from.

Comment author: CronoDAS 22 September 2009 05:44:19AM 5 points [-]

It's three different versions of Shinji Ikari, each coming from a different fanfic: "Thousand Shinji", "Shinji and Warhammer 40,000", and "Once More With Feeling".

Comment author: gwern 22 September 2009 09:59:25PM 1 point [-]

Ah, I was wondering about those - I recognized the Eva characters instantly (I consider myself something of an Eva expert), but I couldn't figure out where the deuce the Shinjis were from (since I've long shunned Eva fanfics).

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 September 2009 04:20:12AM 1 point [-]

The first one made me laugh out loud. Three copies of Tom Swift hanging around, um, Asuka Langley Soryu...

The rest are correct, except that Wbua Pyrrfr is more of a generic representative for the show as a whole, and for Ivetvy Fnzzf I had in mind KK, not VS - though on reflection, VS would probably fit in better with the crowd.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 22 September 2009 04:29:44AM 0 points [-]

Hrm, I thought it was supposed to be specifically "vg'f" thl sbe gur zbagl clguba bar.

Comment author: CronoDAS 21 September 2009 04:13:16AM *  3 points [-]

I got an awful lot of the references but some I can't crack without at least some Googling.

Two references you really, really should have made, but didn't:

  • Stephen King's "Dark Tower" series.
  • The video game "Star Ocean 3".

Also, Rincewind is the Discworld character who got stuck dimension hopping (including a brief visit to the real world), not Vimes.

Comment author: Larks 21 September 2009 02:49:17PM 2 points [-]

But having Vimes along would be so much more useful! Rincewind just isn't a team player.

Comment author: CronoDAS 21 September 2009 05:09:55PM 1 point [-]

You're probably right about that; Rincewind would be constantly looking for opportunities to run away. He'd fail, but he'd still try. I'd rather bring along Granny Weatherwax or Susan Sto Helit than Vimes, though.

Comment author: Emily 21 September 2009 05:22:46PM 1 point [-]

Which would make the best LessWronger? I'd call Vimes the doggedly rational type... but Susan is probably more likely to go about her dogged rationality in a theoretical/mathematical way. And Granny Weatherwax does like methods that WIN, but I'm not sure that she cares very much just how they achieve it.

Comment author: CronoDAS 21 September 2009 05:29:38PM 7 points [-]

Obviously, Vetinari would, if he would deign to deal with us mere bloggers. ;)

Comment author: eirenicon 21 September 2009 05:31:58PM 6 points [-]

I wouldn't call Vimes doggedly rational - at least, not compared to Granny, who is as rational as you can get in a world shaped like a disc resting on the backs of four elephants standing on a giant turtle swimming through space. Vimes just wishes the world made sense. Granny knows it doesn't.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 21 September 2009 05:32:54PM *  1 point [-]

Hrm... Can I request some sort of hybrid of Granny Weatherwax and Ponder Stibbons with a bit of Moist von Lipwig thrown in for good measure?

EDIT: and give the resulting being a carefully dose of Klatchian coffee.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 21 September 2009 05:05:56PM 1 point [-]

Rincewind tends to be terrified of everything... but he does get stuff done. And in "Sceince of Discworld 2", he was the one who orchestrated the entire plot to free roundworld from the elves.

(Although that book pissed me off in other ways. Thermodynamics is just "a theory about gases"?! (That was its explicit justification for stuff for dismissing the relationship between thermodynamic entropy and information entropy))

Comment author: gwern 22 September 2009 10:00:28PM 0 points [-]

Wouldn't Jake constitute a Dark Tower ref?

Comment author: CronoDAS 23 September 2009 05:04:53AM 2 points [-]

It's a different Jake. This one, Jake Stonebender, is from the Callahan's Crosstime Saloon stories. (I had to Google the name.) The Jake from the Dark Tower series is Jake Chambers.