steven0461 comments on The Anthropic Trilemma - Less Wrong

24 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 September 2009 01:47AM

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Comment author: steven0461 27 September 2009 07:51:26PM 0 points [-]

For what it's worth, here is the latest attempt by philosophers of physics to prove the Born rule from decision theory.

Comment author: rwallace 28 September 2009 12:38:20AM 0 points [-]

Interesting paper, but from skimming it without grokking all the mathematics, it looks to me like it doesn't quite prove the Born rule from decision theory, only proves that given the empirical existence of the Born rule in our universe, a rational agent should abide by it. Am I understanding the paper correctly?

Comment author: steven0461 28 September 2009 03:32:50PM *  0 points [-]

My understanding is the proof doesn't use empirical frequencies -- though if we observed different frequencies, we'd have to start doubting either QM or the proof. The question is just whether the proof's assumptions are true rationality constraints or "wouldn't it be convenient if" constraints.

Everett and Evidence is another highly relevant paper.

Comment author: Johnicholas 28 September 2009 01:53:35AM 0 points [-]

I think the paper starts from the empirical existence of Born rule "weights" and attempts to explain in what sense they should be treated, decision-theoretically, as classical probabilities (since in the MWI sense, everything that might happen does happen) - but I admit I didn't grok the mathematics either.